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| .p79 People comfortable with each other talk alike, certainly after generations. We're not there yet. .p82 the basic sound of speech differs in particular but subtle ways .p83 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_fry_register | vocal fry ]] . a slightly creaky tone that people frequently use . KHL I'll take your word for that, with my addled hearing I don't notice |
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| .p | .p94 [[ https://aschmann.net/AmEng/ | North American English Dialects ]] .p101 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diglossia | diglossia, ]] casual and formal speech differ .p108 Informal white speech is 'approachable, real, sexy" Informal black speech sometimes classified as dim .p109 Modern English isn't bad because Vikings massacred Old English to create it .p112 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiezdeutsch | Kiezdeutsch ]] spoken by youth in German multilingual immigrant neighborhoods, similar to Black English in US .p112 similar urban phenomena in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands .p113 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili | Swahili ]] and [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_language | Fula ]] African city dialects .p114 fish started out as fiks, mash started as mask, others said maks .p115 Chaucer often used aks for ask .p119 note: minstrel CD set ''Lost Sounds: Blacks and the Birth of the Recording Industry'' 2005 |
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| .p | .p120 [[ https://abagond.wordpress.com/2019/10/24/minstrelese/ | minstrelese ]], pre-1950 theatrical parody of black speech .p121 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzy_the_Crow | Buzzy the Crow ]] minstrelese "black voice" cartoons from 1950 .p121 black voice caricature emerged from Civil War era [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show | minstrel shows ]] .p122 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Philip_Krapp | George Philip Krapp ]] The English Language in America 1925 . artificial lingo with little relation to Southern black speech .p127 1970s Black slang ( Jive turkey, Right on!, boogie now antique, Black English has evolved .p128 Minnesotans (and 1800's blacks) "tight pronunciation" of ''oh'' sound, no brief oo falloff at end. .p129 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Johnson_(singer) | George Johnson ]] [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYHSlEssYY | The Whistling Coon ]] .p129 [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbpxnovzuz4 | The Merry Mailman ]] no hint of black voice .p129 [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0pSfsCL2Qk | Bert Williams ]] and [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Walker_(vaudeville) | George Walker ]] .p132 otherwise historically accurate films about the early 1800 omit "ample" facial hair .p133 !McWhorter's 1901 Atlanta-born grandfather sounded [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Indian | West Indian ]] to younger blacks, with residual "ay" and "oh" sounds from the 1800s, raised by children of slaves .p134 minstrelese used "am" in place of "is", nobody actually talks like this. .p134 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_McKay | Claude McKay ]] 1928 novel [[ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Home-to-Harlem | Home to Harlem ]] .p136 ... McKay's minstrelese dialog "a window into the past" (inevitable conclusion ?? ) .p137 [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._E._B._Du_Bois | W. E. B. DuBois ]] wrote that after reading it, he wanted a shower .p138 "come" as a marker of pique, doesn't mean "approach" .p139 || Old English for: || ''being'' just normally || ''being'' in a godly sense: forever || || I || am || be || || you || art || bist || || he/she/it || is || bith || || we/you all/ they || sind || bee-ith || |
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| .p164 Black men use ''nigga'' to mean "buddy", usage more than century old .p167 Black English is complicated, not simply unravelled Standard English .p167 Britain has dozens of distinct regional dialects. Black English is America's only centuries-old English dialect strikingly unlike Standard English |
- wiki.keithl.com/McWhorter
John McWhorter books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McWhorter
- b 1965, PhD Stanford 1993
- taught linguistics at Cornell 1993-1995 and UC Berkeley 1995-2003
- Manhattan Institute 2003-
- Columbia University 2008-
Pronoun Trouble . 2025 BvtLib 425.55 MCW . 216 pages
The Story of Us in Seven Little Words
- I tried to read this book; if I was a language maven and had an "ear" for English as sound rather than printed words on a page, I would have learned far more from it.
- The overall message is that spoken languages evolve continuously, new words replace old, old words are modified, pronunciation changes
- over time, pronouns change, grammar changes, older and younger and second-language speakers use different pronouns, and what we talk about changes
The book does NOT explicitly list "seven little words", but the core personal pronouns of English are "I, you, he, she, it we, they" ... (him, her, them
p6 agita a feeling of agitation or anxiety
p12 amn't "am not "in Scotland and Ireland
p13 bowsy Obsolete spelling of boozy
p21 Proto Indo-European (PIE) language 4500-2500 BC
p27 Twilight Zone Five Characters in Search of an Exit
p27 me versus I: "I (subject pronoun) did it" or "me" (object pronoun) if single word used alone
- p36 Latin as model for the(snob) standardization of English
p45 linguistic agreement a word changes form depending on the other words it relates to.
- p48 Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian are mutually understandable dialects of same language
- "language is a political definition, dialect is a linguistic definition"
p55 Ye is a misreading of "thorn" letter þ
God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen Ye=You, or Thee
p56 English inc meant "you two"
p57 origin of language hundreds of thousands to two million years ago
p57 Marie Kondo Japanese Organizing Consultant
p60 "status blind" use of Middle English pronouns was a grievous insult
- Shakespeare signified the social status of characters by their pronouns; Othello uses "thou" for underling Iago, Iago uses "you" for boss Othello. Quakers/Friends used "thou" for everyone in that sense.
p96 dual pronouns, two, between one and many
- .. and about here I ran out of energy and attention for this book.
Talking Back, Talking Black . 2017 BvtLib 427.973 MCW . 190 pages
Truths About America's Lingua Franca
p11 Introduction
p45 Standard English i dipthong, rice "rahees", Black English rahs, monophthongization
p25 It's Complicated
p57 What Do You Mean "Sounds Black"?
p61 dropping of the verb be, example "She my sister."
- p67 meal eel to ih-uhl, car to cawr
p69 breath to BREF
p69 code switching formal to intimate
- p70 "black voice" mostly modified vowels, five little frills
- p79 People comfortable with each other talk alike, certainly after generations. We're not there yet.
- p82 the basic sound of speech differs in particular but subtle ways
p83 vocal fry
- a slightly creaky tone that people frequently use
- KHL I'll take your word for that, with my addled hearing I don't notice
p90 But They Can't Talk That Way at a Job Interview!
p101 diglossia, casual and formal speech differ
- p108 Informal white speech is 'approachable, real, sexy" Informal black speech sometimes classified as dim
- p109 Modern English isn't bad because Vikings massacred Old English to create it
p112 Kiezdeutsch spoken by youth in German multilingual immigrant neighborhoods, similar to Black English in US
- p112 similar urban phenomena in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and the Netherlands
- p114 fish started out as fiks, mash started as mask, others said maks
- p115 Chaucer often used aks for ask
p119 note: minstrel CD set Lost Sounds: Blacks and the Birth of the Recording Industry 2005
p119 Speaking Black or Speaking Minstrel?
p120 minstrelese, pre-1950 theatrical parody of black speech
p121 Buzzy the Crow minstrelese "black voice" cartoons from 1950
p121 black voice caricature emerged from Civil War era minstrel shows
p122 George Philip Krapp The English Language in America 1925
- artificial lingo with little relation to Southern black speech
- p127 1970s Black slang ( Jive turkey, Right on!, boogie now antique, Black English has evolved
p128 Minnesotans (and 1800's blacks) "tight pronunciation" of oh sound, no brief oo falloff at end.
p129 The Merry Mailman no hint of black voice
p129 Bert Williams and George Walker
- p132 otherwise historically accurate films about the early 1800 omit "ample" facial hair
p133 McWhorter's 1901 Atlanta-born grandfather sounded West Indian to younger blacks, with residual "ay" and "oh" sounds from the 1800s, raised by children of slaves
- p134 minstrelese used "am" in place of "is", nobody actually talks like this.
p134 Claude McKay 1928 novel Home to Harlem
p136 ... McKay's minstrelese dialog "a window into the past" (inevitable conclusion ?? )
p137 W. E. B. DuBois wrote that after reading it, he wanted a shower
- p138 "come" as a marker of pique, doesn't mean "approach"
p139 || Old English for: || being just normally || being in a godly sense: forever ||
I |
am |
be |
you |
art |
bist |
he/she/it |
is |
bith |
we/you all/ they |
sind |
bee-ith |
p148 Through a Lens Darkly?
p164 Black men use nigga to mean "buddy", usage more than century old
- p167 Black English is complicated, not simply unravelled Standard English
- p167 Britain has dozens of distinct regional dialects. Black English is America's only centuries-old English dialect strikingly unlike Standard English
